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A question on the "read only" kernel details.
by Oren Beck 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

In a long past architecture the "OS" was in hardware based literal ROM. And a further question came up that shows my ignorance of real applied usages. The full experiment is in direct result of my NOT knowing in advance how to make this work.And wanting to have it for daily use if it does. Since it has become trivial to run Ramdisk Distros I am planning on an experiment. Recently I noticed several USB cards have one or more ports facing towards the INSIDE of the case. The logical to me use will be loading some bootable from USB drive version onto a properly sized flash drive. So far it looks like a "so what" trivial re-inventing trip. This is more my asking for direction in both WHICH distro is suited to do this with and some help in directions for making it do what is needed for this. The devil for me is in the details of altering that installed distro so it can use a drive not part of the same one it lives on. YES this appears to be a tangent or even restatement of the post RE: OS and Data isolation. This is a case detached from that for a different reason. Flash memories of some cheaper design have limited write cycles. Having the OS on a flash drive that only gets written to when the OS itself is changed as in moving from a 5.x up to 7.06 type change. So the flash will not be "worn out" -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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RE: Request for comments, etc. (Oren Beck)
by Craig Aldinger 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Seeing as Oren invoked my experience with my Frankenputer and master/slave drive stuff, I'll allow that Ubuntu 7.10 exceeded my expectations when I did the rebuild on my tower. I won't bore the list with a lengthy blow-by-blow, if anybody out there is interested, it is a weird story involving both hardware and software and a relative newcomer to the Linux world. Any interested parties can contact me directly, will be happy to share the story and, I assure you, it is a strange one!

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Selling my semi-new project PC.
by feba thatl 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

I tested the waters on this back in October, and I do need to sell it. I'd rather give it to (and deal with) one of you than some random craiglist person, so I'm putting it up here first. For info on it, what I wrote back then will suffice: > a bit of backstory, I actually purchased the parts for this in March, put it > together, didn't work, half a dozen RMAs later I finally get a working CPU, > GPU, and mbrd, but then I find my old computer's monitor doesn't work with > it. It SEEMS to boot fine, but again since my monitor doesn't work I can't > be sure, and you'd have to get it working with your own monitor and such. > > ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - > Retail (Hurray for copy/paste) > Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6700 > - Retail > 2 GB of RAM, DDR2. The RAM sticks are 1066, but the motherboard only goes up > to DDR2 800. > EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 > HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail > Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard > Drive - OEM > LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model > LH-20A1S - Retail > MITSUMI Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal USB 2.0 digital card reader with Floppy > Drive - OEM > > And for the case and powersupply (again, unsure of the old computer) > XCLIO WTSL Fully Silver Finish 1.0mm SECC/ ABS ATX Full Tower Computer Case > - Retail > Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails > - Retail > I got a new monitor, and still have had no luck with getting a picture to show up. Without a way to see what's going on, and no other computers to pop parts into to see if something is fried, I'm at a dead end. I don't know if there is a piece of hardware that doesn't work or what, but obviously **it's being sold as-is**. I have the user manuals for the CPU, DVD drive, case, graphics card, power supply, and motherboard. Other than that, I can't promise I'll be able to find all the loose ends (boxes, papers, cables and parts I didn't need), although I believe most or all of the case parts are inside a storage bin inside the case itself (it came with the case, which is pretty sweet). It does not come with a monitor. I can toss in some crappy five cent keyboard and MS mouse I have, and Ubuntu CDs, if you need them (although I doubt anyone here does). I'm looking for 1k; parts would cost about 1200 to buy new, and I spent at least 1800 on it. Unless whatever isn't working is the CPU, you should have no problem replacing it and still getting it at a good price. I should be able to show it to anyone interested any reasonable time this weekend or next week. It can be plugged in to show it's current state of working and lack-thereof if you're interested. Keep in mind that it is a very large case, so if you have problems carrying heavier or larger items, you might want to get a friend to help you get it out of your car and into your house.

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Re: video cards
by Luke -Jr 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

On Thursday 03 April 2008, Jeffrey Watts wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Luke -Jr <luke(a)dashjr.org> wrote: > > Whether civil or criminal is irrelevant: it is still in violation of the > > law. > > There are no injured parties in this circumstance (as the principal > author has said it's fine), and thus this distinction is critical. The principal author in this case does not hold a complete copyright on the program. There are many copyright holders, and every single one of them (including the deceased) needs to give permission to make this legal.

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Does Linux have a CMOS Setup Application, possibly from a LiveCD?
by Leo Mauler 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

I've got a PIII-1Ghz system which I'd like to use until it dies. Right now it works fine, except that the rear PS/2 ports seem not to work. This is a recent development, as the computer worked fine with a PS/2 keyboard and mouse up until I moved it from the basement office into the living room (I just acquired a used TV with a VGA port on the back). I'm using it right now to type this message because when the motherboard gets past the point where I can use CMOS Setup (pressing Del), the motherboard recognizes a USB keyboard and USB mouse even before an OS loads. Pressing DEL to get into the onboard CMOS Setup utility does work from the USB keyboard. However, the onboard CMOS setup utility apparently only recognizes a PS/2 keyboard and not a USB keyboard, because once inside the CMOS utility the keyboard keys don't function. The only way out of the CMOS Setup screen is the power button on the computer. In Ye Olden Days of PC/MS/DRDOS, there were CMOS Setup Utilities which could be run from special boot disks. If such an application still exists, and works for modern CMOSes/BIOSes, I suspect that it is the only way I'm going to be able to change the system time on this computer, or more to the point tell the motherboard BIOS that the Legacy Keyboard option is disabled. Such a Catch-22: because the PS/2 keyboard doesn't work, I can't tell the BIOS that the PS/2 keyboard doesn't work, so that it should accept a USB keyboard when editing CMOS so I can tell it that the PS/2 keyboard doesn't work. This is really frustrating because I know every other component on the system works. I've successfully installed Ubuntu Linux 7.10 without a hitch on this same PC. I just want to make some basic changes to the CMOS/BIOS, but I can't until I figure out how to get into CMOS Setup without a PS/2 keyboard. ____________________________________________________________________________________ OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com

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Linux functional equal to Novell SFT concept. Is there a ready to use and "Free" version
by Oren Beck 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Recently several situations have come up where a Linux based incarnation of the old Novell SFT would be valued. SFT seems to make more sense than ever for high $ per minute situations. What can we do to replicate this in Linux? A concise explanation of the concept is: http://www.linktionary.com/s/sft.html. Since Novell has an involvement of sorts with Linux there is a logical elegant progressive sense here too -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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RE: delay test sent at 1223
by Gene Dascher 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hmm, I got it at 12:22. Are you sure you didn't use Gmail Custom Time? ;) http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html -----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Oren Beck Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:22 PM To: kclug Subject: delay test sent at 1223 Iam sending this at 1223 4-1-2008 -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645 _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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delay test sent at 1223
by Oren Beck 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Iam sending this at 1223 4-1-2008 -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Propagation delays.from post to mailing out.
by Oren Beck 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Has there been an increase in the delay between making a post and it being sent out? -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Motherboards
by Julie 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi Jeff, I completely understand being financially challenged. While I have no answer for your existing problem, I may be able to give you a push in what may be a possible solution to your problem for when you get your IRS booster check. I ran across this in Tech Republic earlier and immediately thought of you. Here, check it out: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=187&tag=nl.e011 I have no idea if that will help you or not. But, maybe, jog some different ideas for you. Good Luck! Sincerely, Julie Freedom means you are free to be responsible ~ Russell Means: http://www.russellmeans.com/responsible.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? .... I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! ~ Patrick Henry --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

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