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Sacrificial Linux boxes
by Jack 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

It's awfully quiet out there. Is the list still up? Am I still subscribed? Well, let's find out. Is anyone running a sacrificial Linux box for testing such things as kernel patches, contributions or drivers? I'm going to set one up for a 2.6 debian box, so I can follow along with this book on Linux device drivers. So I'm looking for some ideas for what to load into this box on a hardware level and ask anyone if they have a particular device that needs to be written for or improved on. My budget is limited as I am still doing the Mr. Mom bit. Brian D. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Basement cleanout
by David Brain 20 Mar '05

20 Mar '05

OK, I'm having a basement clearout. I have a fair bunch of stuff to get rid of - it should (or at least did) all work. One of the P100 systems ran very nicely as a firewall for a couple of years until I upgraded it (to a P200 (!)). I'd rather someone came and took all of it rather than try to get rid of it piecemeal - also that way you have a fair quantity of spare parts for anything that doesn't work, there should be at least a couple working systems that could be cobbled together here (note that all the P100s use the same mobo). I am under no illusion as to the monetary (lack of) value of this stuff, however if you were to want to swap it for something much smaller (like say a USB thumb drive - hint hint..) that would be great. Systems: Case/PSU: Tower/AT (Gateway) Processor: Pentium 100 Memory: 16MB HardDrive: 850MB CDROM: Yes SoundCard: Yes NIC: Yes Case/PSU: Tower/AT (Whitebox) Processor: Pentium 100 Memory 32MB HardDrive: 540MB CDROM: No SoundCard: No NIC:No (Has no IDE cables) Case/PSU: Tower/ATX (Gateway) Processor: Pentium Pro 200 Memory: 64MB HardDrive: 3GB CDROM: Yes SoundCard: Yes USB Ports (via PCI card): 2 NIC: Yes Monitor: 15'' Gateway Crystalscan (working but old) Motherboard: Pulled from Gateway P100 (same as above P100 systems) + CPU Motherboard: Old nasty P60 + CPU Keyboard: Cheap and nasty Contact me off list if you are interested.

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[OT]Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open
by glim＠mycybernet.net 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

Hello... Here is something for people interested in the Perl programming language. Conference registration for Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 has just opened. YAPC is the grass-roots, all-volunteer annual Perl conference. Because it is volunteer-driven it is very affordable. Because the volunteers are passionate about Perl its quality is very high. If this has sparked your interest please take a look at the details here and more details on the conference web site. Have any questions? You can contact the conference organizers by email at: na-help(a)yapc.org Thanks for reading! ----------> Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open. Conference dates: Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June 2005 Location: 89 Chestnut Street http://89chestnut.com/ University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada Info at: http://yapc.org/America http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml Direct registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference… Full registration fee $85 (USD) Book now for great deals on accommodations and ensure a space for yourself. Speaking slots are still open. If you would like to present at YAPC::NA 2005, see: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Details of this announcement: http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt <----------

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RE: Dune Parody skit. Was RE: whitewigs
by Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

> Q- what REALLY killed Frank Herbert? >A- Seeing the David Lynching of Dune. Word is that David's writing Dune 7 based on his fathers notes. I've not read any of his books (I'm on book 5 of dune), so I don't know what to make of this. At least the sci-fi miniseries' were good.

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Re: whitewig
by Jack 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

Why, it's braggin' O'course. But, it's nothing compared to what we'll have to deal with in several years when me wee coleen joins the list. She's a natural born red-haired Irish Lass! (Sure enough she's not got a full head of red hair, but that might yet change) I guess that's more bragging, but o' course anyone who's ever known a full out redhaired lass might argue that point. ;') --- David Nicol <davidnicol(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:18:52 -0800 (PST), Jack > <quiet_celt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > But, then I'm an arrogant Irishman. ;') > > > > slan, > > Brian Densmore > > > > is this bragging or simply being informative? > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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RE: whitewig
by Jack 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

--- "D. Hageman" <dhageman(a)dracken.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Jack wrote: > > > --- "D. Hageman" <dhageman(a)dracken.com> wrote: > > > >> > ... I do have some > reverence for the > title as it was given to people who had done a good > hack. You don't go > around telling people that you were hacker ... as > well ... that would just > be bragging. Well, that could be true in some sense. Telling the world that you have a certain skill could be considered bragging, or simply being informative. Telling everyone you meet all the time that you have a certain skill would certainly be bragging. > > I love your definitions though ... If you get a > moment, stop by a book > store and pick up a 2005 dictionary and see if the > they agree with you. > ;-) They are the language experts ... not me. :-) > http://alum.mit.edu/ne/whatmatters/200304/hack.html This is where I get my definition from. There are many to choose from and most or all dictionaries are probably missing quite a few of them; I question the credentials of some of those experts who write dictionaries. I've often found mistakes in word meanings in dictionaries,; which is inevitable when a language adopts foreign words and the "experts" don't understand the language or are not antive speakers, or when words have foggy "at best" sources from which to find the meaning. But if it's written in print it must be true, eh? Again we are faced with the truism that word meanings change. I naturally got your point (sorry that you misunderstood my point of taking to a level of absurdity). Of course calling oneself a hacker in certain groups can elicit the type of response you speak of. That doesn't necessarily negate one and being a hacker. If you walk into a room full of well-known hackers and you are unknown to them and call yourself a hacker, well what would you expect? But, then I'm an arrogant Irishman. ;') slan, Brian Densmore __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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RE: [OT] related to the whitewig discussion
by Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

Ah, your head is not your own. -----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Kelsay Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:54 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Re: [OT] related to the whitewig discussion Oddly, I sent this early, before I started drinking and it made a sort of sense. Then this morning after nearly 10 hours of drinking yesterday, I have no idea what it means. I didn't see any of you guys down at Westport, so what happened to you. A good time was had by all. Somebody want to define "faded"? That's what I was last night and this morning. I saw a fight, flashers, heavy petting, making out, somebody said there was a couple having sex in the back room, and lots of other stuff. I met a lot of younger women, a few older women, got some phone numbers, got felt up and drank LOTS of beer. Was that TMI? Now I need to have ibuprofen and lots of water. See ya, Brian Kelsay >>> Jack <q> 03/18/05 12:23AM >>> Someone's been drinking too much spiced beer. _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Re: [OT] related to the whitewig discussion
by Brian Kelsay 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

Oddly, I sent this early, before I started drinking and it made a sort of sense. Then this morning after nearly 10 hours of drinking yesterday, I have no idea what it means. I didn't see any of you guys down at Westport, so what happened to you. A good time was had by all. Somebody want to define "faded"? That's what I was last night and this morning. I saw a fight, flashers, heavy petting, making out, somebody said there was a couple having sex in the back room, and lots of other stuff. I met a lot of younger women, a few older women, got some phone numbers, got felt up and drank LOTS of beer. Was that TMI? Now I need to have ibuprofen and lots of water. See ya, Brian Kelsay >>> Jack <q> 03/18/05 12:23AM >>> Someone's been drinking too much spiced beer.

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RE: whitewig
by Charles, Joshua Micah (UMKC-Student) 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

>"ethically motivated hackers who work entirely within >the law; the whitehats of the whitehats" about I'm confused. Do it use the term "hacker" properly or as most people use it?

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Re: whitening
by Brian Kelsay 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

As always, Gerald puts it succinctly. "I like the way you talk." (Slingblade) But I find it hard to not agree with Brian and for once with Jonathan Hutchins. I didn't see that one coming. I guess on natural language processing he and I find some common ground. Now if we could just get him to read some manuals. :-) j/k Gerald, don't forget the band/singer "Uncle Cracker," my 7 yr. old son's current favorite. I'm gonna raise that boy up right. See you guys at Johnny Dare's in Westport around noon if you have the guts. Brian Kelsay >>> Gerald Combs <> 03/16/05 10:37PM >>> Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > The term "hacker" includes the concept of "cracker", unless the latter is > being used to distinguish a subset of the former. "Hacker" and it's meaning > pre-date computers. The term "cracker" is next to useless. I'd venture to guess that for most people the definition of "cracker" is a way, far-off distant fifth behind: The flat bread-food A Caucasian Something that separates chemical compounds, and The alterno-college-rock band Most people simply don't associate it with computing.

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